Dog Issues

As told by Tricia, Ohio Bike Federation Board Member:

My husband and I had our worst experience with loose dogs on a cycling weekend near Georgetown. We spent the weekend in Ripley and rode up to Georgetown and back on Old route 68, running a gauntlet of mean dogs in both directions. We enjoy visiting Ripley but will never ride to Georgetown again. I don’t recall ever meeting Michael or visiting his shop. I had no idea that Michael was trying to resolve this problem and that he had been having so much trouble.
Tricia

 

As told by Tim Guthrie

I have had several issues with dogs cycling in Brown County Ohio. For the record, I am a competitive road cyclist, mountain biker, and duathlete. I also often ride my bike to work, 40 miles round trip. I have years of experience cycling on the roads.

Late summer 2007 I was riding my bike to work.  An aggressive dog chased me. It was a close call.  I had heard of the difficulty in dealing with the dog warden from Mike and others, so next time I brought my video camera.

On the next ride, there he was, giving serious, dangerous chase. I got it all on video, or at least enough. I made still photos from the video. I sent a letter with the date, time, circumstances, and photos to the dog warden. After a few weeks I rode that route again (it was the most direct route to my office). The dog was still there, at the same house, and gave serious chase for several hundred yards almost getting his teeth into my rear tire.

At the time I was invovled in local politics. I called a (now retired) County Commissioner, and brought him a copy of the letter and the photos. At that time the problem was then resolved, with the dog owner consenting to the dogs distruction. I do not know if the owner was cited. I do know, that I had to make multiple efforts even with photos.

Mike has done the same, but without the success I then enjoyed as a ‘insider’.

Also,

Twice since fall 2009 dogs have been killed chasing me. In both instances, I was just commuting on my bike. I was heading west, and the dog belonged to a family on the opposite side of the road. The dog ran out to chase me, and was hit by a car. It is sad thing to see a dog killed like that. Twice. I am glad the drivers did not swerve away from the dog and hit me head on.

Dogs on the loose cause harm to themselves or others, everytime.

 

As told by Chuck Krainz,

While legally traveling a road in Brown County on 8/12/2009, I was attacked by a large vicious dog. After 42+ years of bicycling, this incident was not unique. The intensity and duration of the assault was unusual. As soon as I had a telephone signal, the Dog Warden’s office was contacted. Approximately 35 minutes later, I arrived at the Warden’s office only to be informed that he had “a conflict of interest” with the occupant/dog owner at the reported home. This statement by a “law enforcement officer” created a feeling of abandonment, not unlike the descriptions from Mike Hart for over 3 years. I was told that the Prosecutor’s office would need to handle this situation. I quickly rode back to town (on my bicycle) to find Ms. Little on the phone seemingly getting details of the Warden’s perspective.

The prosecutor did not seem at all disturbed that an officer had refused to perform his duty. She seemed certain that her office could handle the issue. She was completely oblivious to my observation that taxpayers expect that even the Warden’s mother is not above the law. Additionally, the Prosecutor’s office SHOULD have been handling non-dog issues. As a taxpayer I was offended, but respectful. I told her calmly, yet emphatically, how I felt and filed a report. I left to speak with the Commissioners. I had previously conferred with one, in depth, about the very same life-threatening issue – uncontrolled dogs.

The Commissioners shared the blase’ attitude of the prosecutor. I was not convinced as they claimed this is a serious issue and they would look into it.  Later, during a conference call I was informed that the alleged perpetrator was employed by the warden’s wife. This supposed “conflict” was as lame an excuse to shirk duties as I could have imagined. I told the commissioners, “this is my life and well-being they were toying with.”

Two days later, I followed up with Ms. Little’s office. They explained that they were having problems discovering the identity of the alleged dog owner. How can you NOT know the identity of the Dog Warden’s wife’s employee. “Pick up the phone!”, I said with notably less respect in my voice. 24 hours later their ‘investigation’ was complete.

Respect waned when I discovered my alleged perpetrator was the same nemesis of Mr. Hart’s frustrations. “Why”, I questioned Mr Geschwind, “would this be tolerated by my government.” Is this woman somehow above the law? Is she entitled? Is she more equal than others? The Commissioner’s claim that this was a completely unique situation fell hollowly on my ears. Subsequently, the Sheriff’s office failed to deliver my summons to appear in Court. I had no say. Dismissed. 

Thanks Chuck.

A thought about rural life and farm animals, including dogs… 

Funny, Your Horse needs to be under control, she might damage someones’  property.

Your Cow needs to be on your farm, if loose she might trample your neighbors’ garden or worse.

Your Pigs needs to be fenced in, if they get out your neighbors parture/field/crops/garden could be trashed.

Your goats need to stay on your farm, they would eat your neighbors landscaping.

Your sheep need to stay fenced in, sheep are stupid.

The same is true for llamas, mules, donkeys, and any farm animal.

Why then, do some think it is OK for their dog to run wild?

I had a dog that got loose. Someone shot it with a hunting arrow. Amputation, then death resulted.

I have had TWO dogs killed in the last year while I was cycling. Both were hit by cars while chasing me. The drivers had to either hit the dogs, or hit me. Nice.

Loose dogs have sent a friend to the hospital while on a mutli-day bike tour.

Loose dogs have killed motorcyclists. Think about hitting a dog on your motorcycle while going 50 mph.

Loose dogs are a threat to anyone traveling, including cyclists, and to anyone not indoors. Most of all, loose dogs get run over by cars.

Ohio law is clear, read it on the “Ohio Dog Law” page. Dog wardens DO NOT have the authority to waive tickets.

5 Responses to Dog Issues

  1. Chuck Krainz says:

    July 11, 2006, the day before my wedding anniversary, I glanced away from the road in order to assure a grip on a water bottle. I was traveling the exact route on which The Great Ohio Bicycle Adventure had traveled 14 days earlier. Approx 3000 riders. At the very moment I looked away for 1-2 seconds, the largest raccoon I had ever seen stepped out onto the road, unaware we were about to ‘meet’.
    I remember my head being about its normal distance from the ground, however, my bicycle was above me, and I had been traveling 23mph before the impact.
    To summarize, I found myself seemingly glued to the pavement with a broken shoulder, cracked ribs, my head in the center of the right lane, calves and feet off the right shoulder of the road. The worst part of this situation; I had just crested a ‘tummy-tickler’ hill, and oncoming traffic would never be able to stop before they hit me at full speed. Fortunately the elderly woman traveling behind me saw me fly into the air for unknown reasons, and braked to a stop prior to reaching me.
    7 weeks in a shoulder sling, incredible pain, inconvenience and costs, road rash that did not heal until October, arthroscopic surgery on the shoulder joint that will never be the same. Comments from my massage therapist regarding how close I came to breaking my neck made me realize I was lucky to be alive.
    This joy was brought upon me by an animal that does not want to be anywhere near me and will do anything to stay away. Imagine my pleasure now that a ‘friendly’ dog wants to, and is allowed by their owners, cavort with me during my 45mph downhills.
    Brown County officials have displayed no clue as to why I worry so much about dogs ‘biting’ me. I have no idea how they can be so dense. I, like you, accept all the controllable variables, i.e. gravel, poor pavement, inclement weather, wild animals. Confinement of dogs is a legal responsibility of owners. Officials have a sworn duty to enforce the law, no matter the ‘importance’ of the dog owner.
    Michael has been tireless in his pursuit of respect for cyclists in one of the best territories of the nation. His problems stem from stone-walling, habitual ignorance.
    If we do nothing, the ignorance will be entrenched even further.
    That is a condition I cannot accept. I intend to ‘pursue happiness,’ vociferously.

  2. Ambera Robinson says:

    Can we get something together for the Fair Parade? A car/float/no…..I’ve got it….a bikers and people walking alongside handing out the fliers available on this website?

    So many people watch the parade, what a great venue to spread the word.

    • Tim Guthrie says:

      Great idea. Please get some people together and work on it. We need lots of people offering different types of support. I am maxed out right now, but please go ahead, and keep me posted. I may be able to help with printing.

      Tim

  3. Daniel Jacob says:

    Dogs running loose in Brown County is not a new issue by far, either is public officials protecting their friends in these situations. I lived in Mt. Orab until I was 15, late 80′s. I rode my bike everywhere, only limit was getting home on time. Also got chased a lot by dogs. For a while I might stop. Sometimes I would have a sense they just want to run with me. After some time I would know where they were coming from.

    On day I stopped for the last time. While out on Old 32 a couple miles east out of town two dogs I had seen but never had come out. There is a long bend in the road and it turned away from where the dogs were coming. There was no chance of out running them, they had a good jump and with the bend in the road I had to cover more distance then they did. So I stopped. Both dogs got me before I was able to get of my bike. I finally got my bike between them and me and the farmer who’s front yard I was in come out and ran them off. He gave me a ride home. In the end I had an open wound just below my calf that was big enough to put a cigarette lighter into, and some small punctures just below by butt. They did not get into anything vital, but there was the warning that the scar tissue depending on what it did might cause problems with my calf muscle. Luckily it never caused and issues. All that remains are the scars that have gotten smaller over the years.

    There was one dog sometime a coupe of dogs on Bodman near 32 I will never forget. They chased me for years. That one was my biggest fear, he just seemed too aggressive and he could run longer than any dog I have even seen for his size. Coming from Old 32 was easy there was a tree line so I had the jump on him. Coming from the north was a different story. Many of times it was to close for me. He would be close enough to bite. I always figured the faster my legs were moving the harder time he has in getting me. Cars always made this dog more difficult. Being after was bitten, I try to use the cars to my advantage. This just pissed the drivers off at me. One time the dog all most got hit. I was getting better and aiming the dog at the cars. The driver jumped all over me and after I explained the situation he actually when to the house. Nothing changed.

    These are the two most extreme experiences I had out there. There were at least 20 guaranteed chasers back then. Then there were some sometimes they come out some times they would not and finally surprises. To this day many of those place I have not forgotten.

    My sister was attacked and nearly killed by a chow when we lived in Mt. Orab. This dog had a history of biting others. This we knew because it was an in-laws dog. My mom tried for a good amount of time to get the dog put down. The in-laws being connected to the right people in county government, no less, were able to avoid anything ever being done about it. They were never even told to restrain the dog. So the dog ran loose for years after-wards. That dog went on to bite at least one more kid we heard of.

    I am trying to find the pictures still.

    Needless to say in Brown County dogs have more protection than kids let alone cyclist when you know the right people.

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